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The Last Word On The IAHS Prom Story

March 12, 2010

I suppose by virtue of being one of the few people on the entire Internet who supported the decision by Itawamba county schools to cancel their prom rather than deal with the ACLU, that left me open for comments and emails like this:

Read the constitution you idiot… if you read it more than your stupid bible you might actually understand what this country is about…

Of course that was more sophisticated then the straight and to the point: “Wow. You are full of (crap).” Hint: he used a word besides crap.

Those who disagreed with me, but made valid points and didn’t use vulgar language, are in the comments for you to sort through. Here are my last points and I will be done with this story for good (unless something major happens).

1) I understand a public school can not prohibit a female taking another female to prom in the name of free speech. Fine. I don’t like that, but have to live with it. But who is to say a school HAS to have a prom? Apparently, in their opinion, the ACLU.

2) Parents have already met to discuss ways of holding their own prom. I know many schools that hold private, non school-sponsored proms. This gives the parents and families the ability to handle this how they choose, rather than the ACLU.

3) How long until the ACLU goes after every school district in Mississippi? Whether it is targeting Desoto county schools for their strict policies regarding gangs and violence or this case in Itawamba, they are coming after you.

4) I wonder if MTV has been in contact with the girl in the center of the story, Constance McMillen, about a TV-movie. I am sure they would love to get their hands all over this.

5) Finally, I hope you are saving up for private schools for your children. It appears to be the last, best option for the country we are living in.

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29 Comments
  1. Robert permalink*
    March 12, 2010 10:45 am

    Well stated and that comment you quoted is proof of how vigilant gay rights supporters can get when an issue like this turns up.

  2. Amber permalink
    March 12, 2010 10:59 am

    I home school my children. As a private school graduate do not think this is only in public schools.

  3. Willie permalink
    March 12, 2010 11:06 am

    Your comment about private proms is disturbing. While I agree that a prom is not a protected right for a class of citizens anymore than a Sadie Hawkins dance or a pep rally is, your willingness to see exclusivity as a solution to dealing with a changing world is what created an inequitable and race based academy system in Mississippi education today.

    An unwillingness to recognize that societal norms are subject to change and are not absolute does not sustain your point of view, it only marginalizes it. Thirty years ago this sort of debate centered around race. You’ve lost that battle. What will you do when you lose this one?

  4. Chuck Anziulewicz permalink
    March 12, 2010 11:11 am

    In cancelling the entire prom rather than simply accomodating ONE COUPLE, the Itawamba BOE knew exactly what they wanted to accomplish: The complete vilification of this young woman in the school and the community at large. What harm could have done to allow Constance McMillen to bring her date to the prom? NONE whatsoever. Everyone would’ve had a wonderful time. But the school board knew what they wanted to do: Create hostility towards this young woman. They succeeded. Not only are the kids blaming the girl for the the loss of their prom, but the local clothing stores and limosine services are losing business as well. And for WHAT? Just to make a scapegoat of Constance McMillen. How petty.

  5. Mississippi Elitist permalink
    March 12, 2010 11:16 am

    This is not just about the ACLU it is NAMBLA for goodness sakes! You know Man Boy Love but wait I guess that is ok also. What the hey anything goes with some of the folks!

  6. Danielle permalink
    March 12, 2010 11:47 am

    This has made international news and is making the entire country look bad. 40 years ago this might have happened because a white girl wanted to bring a black boy. Bigotry was wrong then, and it’s wrong then. Private schools and homeschooling were the same reaction people had to avoid having to integrate their children, as well as closing down schools rather than integrate. Racism or homophobia, all of it is bigotry, and it shouldn’t be accepted in America. America is a land of equality, it always hasn’t been, and it’s been a long road to come as far as we have, and we’re still moving forward. Sorry, but you can’t stop the hands of time, things are going to change, and equality is going to win out. This fight is over the principle of the thing, it’s not about the prom, it’s about discrimination being absolutely wrong.

  7. Justin permalink
    March 12, 2010 11:52 am

    I echo the sentiments of Chuck…

    Only in obstinate states like Mississippi would something like this be an issue. I’ll never understand the demand to instill the same set of ideals upon everyone. How is a girl taking another girl to her prom detrimental or harmful to ANYONE? It’s not like they were caught having sex in public… they’re just going to the prom together. Big deal. Get over it and move on.

    • Mississippi Elitist permalink
      March 12, 2010 12:42 pm

      Its good to see there are some people who believe Mississippi is an “obstinate state” are so interested in our little ole’ blog here. Glad to hear from you seeing as the name is “Majority Mississippi” and all.

  8. AmericanRevolution2 permalink
    March 12, 2010 12:05 pm

    Very true. I dont see where the girls constitutional rights were violated. She has no right to violate a school board’s policy regarding a school-sponsored event. She obviously tried to cause a lot of attention to the matter, in trying to circumvent the already-established rules. Now the ACLU is involved, which also has no right to ‘force’ the school to sponsor a prom. Bottom line is, if the school board has made a decision, a decision that does not explicitly violate the girls rights, then that decision is the rule. I will say that if the couple had in some way obtained a ‘same-sex civil union’ then they would have more of a case than just a couple 18 year old girls. Who, at that age, may not even be certain of who they are. Why try to cause such an uproar in a community over an issue that is clearly not a violation of rights.

    • Danielle permalink
      March 12, 2010 12:55 pm

      She just wants to bring her date to prom? What’s so wrong with that? If the school had a rule against inter-racial couples it would be the same principle. You can’t discriminate against people. It’s really sad that rather than allow her to bring who she wants and dress how she wants they’ll cancel the whole prom. It’s clear the reason they canceled the prom is because they realized they couldn’t say she couldn’t bring her date because discrimination isn’t allowed. So what do they do instead? Ask parents to host private proms, so that they can exclude her, because you’re allowed to not invite someone to a private party.The issue of this case is that discrimination is wrong, no matter how old the people involved are. It isn’t fair that she should be deprived of getting to go to prom and dance with her high school sweet heart. It’s a moment that’s part of being an American teenager, it’s a right of passage as much as graduation, and no one should be denied that because of other people’s bigotry.

  9. Dirk Wiese permalink
    March 12, 2010 12:35 pm

    I am currently stationed in Germany and the Germany and english Skynews are mocking the hell out of this story. The fact that the school rules do not keep you from inviting or dating a opposite sex family member was laughed at on both the UK Skynews and the German RTL as probably happening a lot in the south.

    Come on people resolve this, or is there a sign outside of town saying set your clock back 100 years

    • Taxpayer 2.5 permalink
      March 13, 2010 10:31 am

      I support the school board on the call they made, and look forward to the ACLU suit demanding the prom go forward. Will the ACLU also ask for contempt citations when other students dont go, or if they do go, fail to enjoy themselves.

      Also, spent time in both Germany and England, and both have problems with history, and their record on civl rights, it may be a case of the skillett calling the kettle black.

  10. mike moore permalink
    March 12, 2010 1:03 pm

    stop the crappy rationalizations …

    IAHS cancelled these kids’ prom because they didn’t want a two girls going as each other’s dates.

    they, and you, are simply a bunch of joy-stealing bigots.

  11. PROUD MISSISSIPIAN permalink
    March 12, 2010 1:25 pm

    I am so SICK of hearing about this. No one ever told her she could not go to the prom. Why could she not just went and stayed quiet and been with her “friend”? I am so sad at how much attention this story has gotten. I think it is exactly what she and the ACLU wanted—ATTENTION!! I know that God is in control of this situation! GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

    • Danielle permalink
      March 12, 2010 2:03 pm

      Actually, she was told even if she and her “friend” arrived separately, and wore dresses, that they would be asked to leave.

  12. brendon permalink
    March 12, 2010 3:29 pm

    Brett-

    You are correct in point#1 that there may not be a legal recourse to force a prom, but I think the issue is really one of simply being kind and fair to the students – all of them.

    I would think of greater concern to you and others in Mississippi is that this chain of events has made Mississippians look like insensitive clods who live in the past to pretty much most of the world. And make no mistake, this issue has obtained viral, worldwide attention.

    And to those who will want to respond to my post, save the pointless “We don’t care what the rest of the world thinks!” Mississippi is not a self-contained island. You presumably desire industry and tourism to help you live a decent life there. While the action has defenders, on balance Mississippi’s stock has taken a big hit in the last few days.

    Your advice to retreat to private schools, already unrealistic to most, is also short sided: you can’t hide from the real world forever. But if you want to produce kids isolated and less capable of operating in a global environment and economy, knock yourself out.

    • Taxpayer 2.5 permalink
      March 13, 2010 10:41 am

      The Real World…do you think this girl, as the new cause celeb of the vocal lesbian-gay community is living in the real world. I am all about challenging dumb rules, but cross dressing and the like, and some right to be in-your-face gay and edgy. Get real, the last edgy person I talked to, the ones who wont fit in, cant follow rules, was some dude with a tattoo on his neck asking me if I wanted to supersize my order!

      • brendon permalink
        March 13, 2010 11:33 am

        Well, I’ve seen guys in sky blue tuxedos at a prom and no one blinked at that! It’s not something I would do but they thought they looked snappy and who am I to ruin their good time? The taste of others takes nothing away from me.

        I know what you mean about tattoos (I’m 55). I often look at a young person with a lot of tats and think, well that was a mistake; you’ve basically cut yourself out of a lot of possibilities in life. While I think that will always be true to some extent, I think it will mean less so in the future when the younger generation runs the world.

        In the 60′s and I believe even into the 70′s, Disneyland used to turn away guys whose hair they considered too long. How absurd that seems today. A few years later they ejected two males who were dancing together…a policy they have long since abandoned in part because of the public outcry (I’m not sure if it was also a legal matter).

        And they still call it the happiest place on Earth.

        Finally, I always think it odd when I see a tag like “the vocal lesbian-gay community.” Of course they are vocal: They don’t think they are doing anything wrong and people keep trying to tell them what they can’t do! Wouldn’t you speak up if that was happening to you?And even if it is not your cup of tea, is it possible they might be right?

  13. donna permalink
    March 12, 2010 4:00 pm

    constance u need help get over it and get on with ur life ur wearing ur school name down i have a child that attends that school and my child thinks this is all stupid because someone wants to act a fool and thats what ur doing grow up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. Tea Party Leader II permalink
    March 12, 2010 4:15 pm

    Ittawamba country recently released their unemployment rate at 17.5%. One of the highest in the state. I know that one of the major reasons manufacturers do not select areas is because of the quality of the schools. Corporations want to be sure that the management and employees of their companies have top notch educational facilities and recreational areas for families. Our economy continues to rank as one of lowest in the US.

    You are absolutely right that this type of press is not what any state, city or county wants if they are looking for new industry or tourism.

    This incident would never had grown to this proportion if it had been handled correctly at the school level.

  15. Republican Dawg permalink
    March 12, 2010 4:34 pm

    The Itawamba schools actually aren’t that bad. In the last year they did the 1-5 rankings, IAHS was a 4- which is not bad at all. Itawamba’s problems as a county are much like the rest of NE Mississippi. The manufacturing jobs have been killed (going back to the early 90s and NAFTA) and they haven’t been able to diversify. Toyota would be a big help if there plant would ever open up.

    • Amber permalink
      March 12, 2010 5:08 pm

      That is a good level. That is also based on No Child Left Behind which is a national standard. Good for them.

  16. Unreligious permalink
    March 12, 2010 5:18 pm

    If Donna’s, run on sentence with no punctuation, comment is indicative of the education given people in Ittawamba, then Republican Dawgs is meaningless. But then even he incorrectly uses there for their.

  17. Biloxi Conservative permalink
    March 12, 2010 6:29 pm

    Why is this even a story…oh wait ACLU

    • Mississippi Patriot permalink
      March 12, 2010 10:34 pm

      And who called in the ACLU…. Constance?

      • Taxpayer 2.5 permalink
        March 13, 2010 10:58 am

        These GLBT groups realize, that as interest in their cause wanes, you know, the days of old men dressed as drag queens and fat ugly lesbians is no longer edgy, but now rather comical and so blaise, they need to attract a younger demographic. They target the pre-teens and teen age groups. You’ll see these Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgender (GLBT) groups being financed and set up at many a campus throughout the country.

  18. Wayne permalink
    March 12, 2010 10:13 pm

    I wonder if you would use the same arguments and reasoning if it involved an interracial couple? Just curious.

    • Taxpayer 2.5 permalink
      March 13, 2010 10:52 am

      a good portion of the gay agenda has always been to liken their acceptance by comparing their in-your-face confrontations, to the black civil rights struggle, women’s suffrage, and to always attack the religious. Their battle mantra has always included the term Bigot, to label anyone who questions their motives, or seems to support some standard of morals and values

  19. Tony permalink
    March 13, 2010 12:30 am

    You seem to understand– even if you don’t agree– that the school can’t prevent a student from choosing a date of the same sex. It only takes a step more to realize why they can’t cancel the prom IF (as appears to be the case) the purpose for canceling the prom is to prevent a student from choosing a date of the same sex.

    It is perhaps easier to understand using an analogy that is legally equivalent. If a male and female student wanted to go their public school prom together but the school board refused to permit it because he choose to live a Christian lifestyle and she chose to live as an atheist, then it would plainly be illegal. If the school was upset enough about the prospect of a Christian-atheist liaison to cancel the entire prom just so the unorthodox couple could not attend or, alternatively, so other students would not have to observe such a couple, there would be a constitutional violation for the same reason: public schools don’t get to discriminate.

    Private schools do get to discriminate. That is where parents, educators, and school board members should go if they don’t want to interface with a pluralistic society. Playing games as they are here only ties up a school district in costly litigation that they will lose. Alas, at least the students get a good, up close lesson on civil rights and checks and balances.

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