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Friday Ramblings with Robert

July 22, 2011
tags: 2011 Governor, Dave Dennis, Hudson Holliday, James Broadwater, Johnny DuPree, Memphis Luckett, Phil Bryant, Ron Williams
by Robert

So I had the pleasure of watching the Gubernatorial Debate, that was hosted at the Mississippi College School of Law, twice last night and here are my thoughts on what went down.

Most Polished Showed

Without a doubt there were 2 candidates that clearly looked more comfortable speaking in front of a crowd and on television and that was Dave Dennis and Phil Bryant.  It was not even really close in my opinion and honestly if you had to pick a 3rd I’d go with Hudson Holliday.  Dave and Phil were on point and clear with both of their separate messages and speaking in general last night.  If I were a Democrat I would be disappointed with the showings of Bill Luckett and Johnny DuPree.  Luckett seemed dull and looked tired and mumbled his way through his answers while DuPree seemed to lose focus on the questions that were being asked and was cut off by the moderator about 4 times during the 8 question debate for going over his time.  Ron Williams had a clear message as well and stuck to that throughout, bucking the establishment and “good ole boy deals,” but he did not look entirely comfortable with public speaking.  James Broadwater had no business even being there and was completely out of his element constantly pausing to look at his notes and creating some awkward moments, although he’s your guy if you are looking for a Fair Tax approach.

On The Issues

The questions that were asked dealt with the following: Obamacare, State Lottery, Voter ID, Fat, Poor and Dumb What To Do, Illegal Immigration, Redistricting, Jobs, Open Primaries.

On Obamacare all the Republicans supported the state’s lawsuit against it while the two Democrats naturally opposed the lawsuit to fight it.  The state lottery question was interesting and Luckett and Holliday said they would favor it if the money went to the right places, while the others opposed except for DuPree who never really answered the question, but instead suggested that taxes needed to be levied on corporations in the state.  Voter ID stuck to party lines again with the Democrats saying they would abide with it if it passed, but they both suggested that the real fraud was in absentee voting not at the polls.  The what do we do about being fat, poor and dumb question generated some fluffy comments that really are not even worth mentioning.  Attention then turned to Illegal Immigration where Luckett and DuPree support amnesty programs to give illegal citizenship, while the Republicans all talked of getting tougher and strengthening laws.  Dave Dennis had the following quote, “Press 1 for English, Press 2 to disconnect and learn how to speak english.”  I’ll skip the what to do about redistricting and how have you created jobs questions that really brought nothing to the table.  The last question posed to the candidates dealt with whether they would support open primaries and this question seemed to be the one that most divided them.  Broadwater, Williams and DuPree favored it, Dennis and Bryant do not, Holliday had mixed emotions about it and Luckett would like to study it.


Bryant: Individual responsibility

Dennis: Private sector

Holliday: Tired of waiting

DuPree: Well in Hattiesburg……

Luckett: Get It Done Tour Starts Tomorrow

Williams: Good Ole’ Boy Deals

Broadwater: (Pauses)(Looks at notes)….Fair Tax

In Conclusion

Dave Dennis and Phil Bryant both looked strong and poised last night and Dennis did start throwing some punches at Bryant about lack of leadership.  These two were clearly on a tier above the others and it showed.  I don’t think you could really say there was a real clear winner as the style of the debate did not really dictate one candidate beating another, but it was interesting to get to see all of the candidates and hear what they had to say.

8 Comments leave one →
  1. Chrisman permalink
    July 22, 2011 10:03 am

    Spot on. The Broadwater buzzword….too funny and too right.

  2. MSDawg permalink
    July 22, 2011 10:14 am

    All of the buzzwords were great…..

  3. Dontreadonme permalink
    July 22, 2011 10:28 am

    Robert, I have to disagree- Ron & Hudson, were the best in the debate. Dave dodged answering half the questions. Phil looked like an elephant that memorized his talking points for each question, throwing Haley’s name every chance he could. Johnny was embarassing for the city of Hattiesburg, telling lies every time he mentioned the city. I have to agree broadwater was very nerves. Your big mistake is gauging the debate based on how well the candidate looks on stage and T.V. Tom Cruise speaks well on stage and T.V., but I would not elect him for public office. We don’t need an actor for Governor. Ron looked real, natural and knowledgable on the issuses. Hudson was on point with his issues and did not walffel, he looked like a strong, firm leader. Bill was erratic on the issues either conservative or liberal with no middle ground and a bit winded, however some good points. Phil looked like a televangelist wanting to take your money. He was arrogant and well rehersed sticking to his talking points. Dave looked like a typical repubic dodging and lying about illegal (labor)immigration, however he did grow some guts. Johnny well a typical lying liberal…

  4. Matt permalink
    July 22, 2011 10:52 am

    Did anyone else think that Phil seemed either a little but condescending or too much like a school teacher? Like when he was explaining redistricting or how the primary election system works. Also, what’s the deal with Hudson’s misfire on claiming that Dave is racking up minority set-asides? Just because the majority shareholder of a business is a woman or minority doesn’t mean they participate in obtaining contracts through that particular SBA program. Hudson basically said that if a woman or minority starts a particular type of business, then they are guilty of something simply because a program happens to exist, even if they never take part in it.

    • Dontreadonme permalink
      July 22, 2011 3:43 pm

      I think Hudson was saying the business Dave claims to run is actually not Dave’s. It belongs to a woman that receives minority-status for the business. In other words Dave dose not own his own business nor has he built any kind of business from the ground up. He is just a small investor in someone elses business and claiming it as his own.

      • Clayton permalink
        July 22, 2011 4:40 pm

        You don’t have to own a business to run a business. In fact, it is quite common that a president does not own a business. So his wife owns a majority of the business and he owns the minority of the business. If they don’t use it to get minority contracts – which Dennis said they never have done – how does that matter. He has claimed he is President and he is. He has been President of it for 34 years. You don’t run a successful business for 34 years and not make smart decisions.

  5. Coast Rat 4ever permalink
    July 22, 2011 11:09 am

    I tend to somewhat agree with Robert. However, I did think Hudson did better than I anticipated he would do. It was very clear that Dave and Phil were certainly the most polished and at ease. I am very unfamiliar with Hudson and may have had preconceived notions about him and gotta admit he did surprisingly well. Ron came across as an angry and embittered man with a grudge against those that compete against him in business. He is really hung up and obviously has a personal vendetta against those companies that compete against his company. I was somewhat surprised as to Dupree and Luckett’s position on amnesty for illegals. Granting amnesty would certainly have a detrimental effect on the job market for much of their constituency. Clearly to me it was a runaway for Dave and Phil as the winners with Hudson bouncing in at a respectable third place. Of course I was really hoping Dave would knock it outa the park to gain some momentum. But that didn’t happen. I see the debate as keeping the status quo in where the candidates rate with the voters. But do think that maybe Dave and Hudson may have moved up a cupla notches.

  6. Sam Hall permalink
    July 22, 2011 1:26 pm

    I think something needs a bit of clarification here. Mayor DuPree has never advocated raising taxes on anyone, including corporations as mentioned in this post. In fact, in 10 years as mayor, he’s never raised taxes one time.

    What Mayor DuPree talks about is very similar to your buzzwords for Phil Byrant: Personal Responsibility. But in this sense, it’s corporate responsibility.

    If corporations are given incentives to open up shop in Mississippi on the agreement that they will create X number of jobs and invest Y number of dollars, then we need to hold them accountable for doing so. If they are not holding up their end of the bargain, they either need to play catch up over a reasonable amount of time or we need to reconsider their incentives.

    On immigration: He believes the same thing. We need personal responsibility and corporate responsibility. If corporations continue to hire immigrants who are here illegally with nothing more than a slap on the wrist when they are caught, then the demand for this kind of undocumented worker will continue.

    What Mayor DuPree advocates is a path to citizenship for those people who are undocumented but are working and are willing to take the necessary steps. It’s basically the same stance as most business-minded Republicans, of which Haley Barbour is one. Read for yourself:

    OK. Thanks for the chance to clarify.

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